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| Preparing to welcome the new baby |
Lleucu is busily blowing up balloons at Y Felin, while Iolo advises that she still has another packet to do;
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| "Don't you think this is a bit over the top?" |
“Don’t you think this is a bit over the top?” she asks,
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| "The baby is coming home!" |
but he excitedly replies that the baby is coming home for the first time.
“But he won’t know any different,” she continues. Iolo maintains that he will have the photos to look back on, but is warned,
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| "Don't put anything on Facebook or Insta" |
“Just don’t post anything on Facebook or Insta – it will embarrass him when he’s older.”
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| "Embarrassing photos of you?" |
Iolo gets the impression that there must be some embarrassing photos of her on her father’s accounts.
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| "Like a lobster in a Mr Urdd hat" |
“There’s loads – I look like a lobster in a Mr Urdd hat in most of them,” she growls. Iolo wonders where her father is
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| "He has a big job on" |
and she explains that he is at work, as he has a big job on.
“He’s not trying to avoid being at home, is he?” and she answers that he is just giving them some space – but he is cool with everything.
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| "Are you cool with everything?" |
“And what about you? Are you cool with everything?” enquires Iolo. She assures him that she is.
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| "I'm going to get the baby" |
“Right, you carry on with the balloons – I’m going to get the baby,” he says, picking up the car seat.
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| "We're supposed to be going out for lunch" |
Gaynor has a visitor – Ffion, who reminds her that they are supposed to be going out for lunch.
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| "I don't feel like it" |
However, Gaynor does not feel like it.
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| "You don't have to hide" |
She is told, “You don’t have to hide.”
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| "The police are ready to release Cheryl's body" |
The police have been in touch, advising that they are ready to release Cheryl’s body; “And as I’m the closest relative . . .”
Ffion suggests that she could make lunch for the two of them there at Y Felin, but Gaynor still maintains she does not feel like it.
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| "You still need to eat" |
“I know things are difficult – and I might be the last person you want to see at the moment – but you still need to eat,” Ffion insists.
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| "There's no food here" |
Gaynor replies that will be rather difficult because there is no food there. “In that case, we shall have to go out, then. Come on – it will do you good,” Ffion tells her and she rather reluctantly agrees.
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| "Tom is back at the police station" |
In the interview room at the police station, Tom is waiting;
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| "This interview is being recorded" |
DS Thomas and DC Michael enter the room to interview him and the time is announced as 12:35pm. “I am informing Mr. Humphries that this interview is being recorded. Can you state your name, please?”
“David Thomas Humphries,” he replies.
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| "I hope you didn't just fancy a day out" |
“I hope you didn’t just fancy a day out from prison,” the DS begins, “This had better be important.”
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| "God morning – or is it afternoon?" |
“Good morning – or is it afternoon?” he begins,
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| "I don't have a lot of time" |
then is warned that the DS does not have a lot of time.
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| "I think's about time you heard the truth" |
“Sorry, you’re a busy woman. I don’t know where to start – I think it’s about time you heard the truth – look, I want you to understand that this isn’t easy for me. It’s only now that I feel safe enough to talk –
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| "I am safe with you, aren't I?" |
“I am safe with you, aren’t I?”
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| "Perfectly safe" |
The DS confirms that he is perfectly safe, so he goes on,
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| "There are things you need to know about Gaynor Llywelyn" |
“I’m glad to hear that, because there are things you need to know about Gaynor Llywelyn – things I’ve been too scared to say until now.”
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| Cassie is trying to make a call |
As a car passes outside the Deri, Cassie is trying to contact someone by phone;
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| "Boyfriend not phoning you back?" |
Diane, who is waiting for a bus, calls across to her, “Boyfriend not phoning you back?”
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| "Where are you off to?" |
Cassie changes the subject to ask where Diane is going; “Only a planning meeting in town,”
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| "Can you do me a favour?" |
so Cassie would like her to do a favour, going to that nice stationery shop
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| "Some paper and envelopes?" |
to get some paper and envelopes.
Diane is doubtful that she will have enough time to go shopping, but is told, “It’s only round the corner from the council place – and I would really appreciate it.”
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| "You're keen to get hold of someone" |
Diane comments that she is keen to get hold of someone, but Cassie walks away without saying anything else.
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| "You know I love boiled eggs and soldiers" |
A few yards away, the door to the MFC flat opens and Colin comes out, complaining to Britt, “You know I love boiled eggs and soldiers in the morning!”
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| "I'll tell Siwsi not to touch your bread" |
She answers that she will tell Siwsi not to touch his bread tomorrow.
He continues moaning that she is starting to treat Siwsi like a queen and will be ironing her clothes next;
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| "You're not already doing her ironing?" |
then he realises that she is already doing that. “Well, I iron yours, don’t I?” is Britt’s response.
When Colin turns, he exclaims, “Heavens – that’s something you don’t see every day! A councillor catching a bus!”
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| "The car is having an MOT" |
Diane points out that the car is having an MOT;
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| "Britt's on her way to town" |
Colin informs her that Britt is on her way to town, so she could have a lift.
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| "I'd better get to the shop" |
He must hurry to the shop now, or Eileen might take £10 out of his wages – again.
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| They discover, lying by the roadside . . . |
As they walk around the corner towards the car,
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| . . . a homeless man |
they notice a homeless person sleeping by the side of the road. “What’s he doing here, poor dab?” wonders Britt,
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| "He'a heard about the free meals at MFC" |
while Diane imagines that he has probably heard that they are giving away free meals at MFC.
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| "But that was last week" |
“Well, that was last week,” says Britt, so Diane comments that she should tell him that, adding that Britt should give him some food, or some warm clothes, not money.
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| "Yes, you're right" |
“Yes, you’re right – when I get back, I’ll tell him to come to MFC.”
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| Tom continues with his fantasy |
Tom continues his tale of woe; “She’d tell me what to do, what to say, what to think. I know that makes me look weak, because I stayed there,
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| "I tried to leave her, but . . . |
“but I couldn’t leave her – I tried, more than once. But every time I left, she would come after me and make me change my mind. She’d say that things would be different this time – but things just get worse every time.”
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| "There's one thing I don't understand" |
There is one thing which the DS does not understand,
he goes on, “How I always find myself with women like that?”
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| "No, that has this got to do with the death of Cheryl Thomas?" |
“No, what has this got to do with the death of Cheryl Thomas?” is what the DS wants to know.
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| "I'm talking too much . . ." |
“Erm,” he says, doing his best to look suitably nervous, “I’m talking too much – because I don’t know where to start.
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| ". . . I'm as much of a victim as Cheryl" |
“What I’m trying to say is I’m as much of a victim as Cheryl in all this.”
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| Iolo proudly carries the new baby . . . |
Iolo brings the new baby into Y Felin, followed by Liv and Greta;
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| . . . who looks very large for his age |
“You, me and Greta are going to have so much fun, getting to know each other,” he enthuses.
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| "Would you like to give the baby a cuddle?" |
He asks Greta if she would like to give the baby a cuddle and tells her to go and sit on the sofa.
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| "Thanks for letting me stay here" |
Meanwhile, Liv appears to have been completely ignored; she thanks Iolo for letting her stay there. “You’ve been through a lot – letting you stay is the least I can do,” he answers.
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| She will not be in the same room as her baby |
She will take the stuff upstairs, but is told that she will be sleeping in Greta’s room. “Forget about the basket – I’ll take it up to my room later.”
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| "I thought he could be with me tonight . . ." |
“I thought he would be with me tonight,” says Liv, but Iolo considers it would be better for the baby to be in his room from the start.
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| ". . . I've been trying to breastfeed him" |
“It’s just that I’ve been trying to breastfeed him, you see,” she explains, “Because they said in the hospital that would be best.”
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| "There's no pressure on you now to do that" |
"He stresses that there is no pressure on her now to do that, but she wants him to have the best possible start.
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| "All right, just a couple of nights" |
Iolo reluctantly agrees that the baby can spend a couple of nights with her,
“But we shall have to get Tyler used to the bottle during the day.”
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| "Tyler?" |
This comes as a complete surprise to Liv, as he maintains that it came into his mind when he was thinking about names last night;
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| "It's perfect, isn't it?" |
“I think it’s perfect, isn’t it?”
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| "Like Dadi?" |
As he takes the baby to the sofa Greta asks, “Like Dadi?”
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| Greta looks at Liv . . . |
then looks across at Liv,
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| . . . who does not like what is happening |
who does not appear at all happy about what is happening.
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| The police appear to be looking for Gaynor |
DS Thomas and the DC come out of MFC,
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| "Can we have a word down at the station?" |
where they see Ffion and Gaynor walking towards them; “Gaynor Llywelyn? We’ve been looking for you – can we have a word? We’d better explain what it is down at the station.”
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| Lleucu is watching from across the road |
Lleucu has just come out of the deli and is witnessing this,
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| "I've already told you everything" |
as Gaynor emphasises that she has already told them everything. She has told that some new allegations have been made..
Colin has emerged from the shop with a box of vegetables and when he hears the DS saying they should discuss this at the police station, he takes an immediate interest.
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| "I have a right to know" |
Gaynor is adamant that she has a right to know what this is about before she goes anywhere with them.
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| "Tom is claiming you killed Cheryl Thomas" |
“David Thomas Humphries is claiming that you killed Cheryl Thomas.” This causes some amazement from all within earshot.
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| "That was a waste of an afternoon" |
Diane and Britt are walking back, after what Diane describes as, “A waste of an afternoon! Who cancels a planning meeting at the last minute?”
Britt points out that it was not a complete waste, as she got her stationery;
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| The man by the roadside has gone |
she appears to have also bought quite a lot of stuff, but when they reach the spot where the homeless person was, he is no longer there.
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| "I hope he's found a hostel" |
Diane hopes that he may have gone to look for a hostel for the night.
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| "What am I going to do with all this stuff?" |
Colin comes out and greets them, as Britt does not know what she is going to do with all the stuff she has bought.
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| "The council has a food kitchen" |
Diane replies that the council has a food kitchen in town and she could give it to them if she wants.
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| "You've spent a small fortune!" |
“You’ve spent a small fortune!” Colin complains and Britt tells him not to start; she maintains that all he does is to give her gyp for trying to help these poor people.
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| "Good grief!" |
“I’m here to support you,” he continues, “But, good grief . . .”
She angrily stops him and tells him to keep an eye out for the boy who was there; “He might come tomorrow and I can give him this stuff –
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| "I've missed my chance, because of Diane" |
“I’ve obviously missed my chance today because of Diane!” Colin looks down at what has been left behind, which includes an empty bottle.
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| "Who are you trying to get in touch with?" |
Diane brings the paper and envelopes to Cassie, who is outside the Deri again; “Tell me, who is this person you’re trying to get in touch with?”
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| "It's Owain, Stefan's son" |
“Well, if you must know, it’s Owain, Steffan’s son.”
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| "Is that a good idea?" |
Diane is doubtful that it is a good idea to contact him,
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| "Well, Steffan was good enough for you at one time" |
so Cassie reminds her, “Well, Steffan was good enough for you at one time, wasn’t he?” then walks away,
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| That makes her feel uncomfortable |
leaving Diane feeling uncomfortable.
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| "We're not accusing you of anything" |
At the police station, Gaynor is told that they are not accusing her of anything, but just want to ask her a few questions about these new allegations.
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| "He left you to start a relationship with Cheryl?" |
“Is it true that David Thomas Humphries left you to start a relationship with your sister Cheryl Thomas? Did you know he’d been having an affair with Cheryl Thomas?”
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| "He left the CCTV on his laptop" |
Gaynor sadly nods her head; “He left the CCTV running on his laptop and it showed them kissing – I think he did it intentionally.” The DS assumes that it must have been very difficult for her after watching that.
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| "Were you angry with her?" |
“Were you angry with Cheryl Thomas at the time of her disappearance?”
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| Gaynor denies that |
Gaynor shakes her head,
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| They show her the doorbell footage |
then they show her video footage of the doorbell camera at 39 Maes-y-Deri on Christmas Day 2024.
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| "But we've already discussed this" |
Gaynor was under the impression that they had already discussed this, but is told that, because of the new allegations they have to ask again.
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| "Had something upset you on that day?" |
“Had something upset you on that day?”
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| "The DNA test showed she was not my sister" |
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| "But she was" |
“But she was your sister,” the DS emphasises, so Gaynor assumes that the test was wrong.
“There’s another video of you returning later – why did you go back that day?”
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| "Tom must have already killed her" |
Gaynor maintains that she just wanted to talk to Cheryl and at this time she went into the house, but only Tom was there. She assumes that he must have already killed her.
“He maintains that you did that,” she is informed, “And that you then forced him to move the body.”
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| "I haven't done anything wrong" |
Gaynor denies that she has done anything wrong, but is again is assured that she is not being accused of anything.
“You have no idea what it was like living – this isn’t my fault.”
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| "This is your opportunity to say" |
“If you have any more to say about David Thomas Humphries and your relationship, this is your opportunity,” the DS advises her.
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| Ffion has a surprise phone call |
As Ffion arrives back at Deri Fawr, her phone rings and she finds that it is a call from Tom;
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| "I want to see you" |
“Ffion, I know you’re there – please listen to me. I want to see you – there’s something I want to say – things to explain.”
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| "Like why you're blaming Gaynor?" |
“Like why you’re blaming Gaynor for killing Cheryl?” Ffion replies,
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| "Please, just come and see me" |
but he insists that it is complicated. “Do you honestly think people will believe your lies?” she continues.
“Please, just come and see me,” he begs,
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| "So you can tell me more lies" |
but she knows that he is only going to tell her more lies, so turns down his invitation. “I’ve got something important to tell you – please!” he stresses,
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| His call is terminated |
but then the bleeps sound to indicate that his time is up.
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| Ffion looks at her phone . . . |
Ffion looks disbelievingly at her phone
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| . . . and wonders what to do |
and appears torn about what decision to take.
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| "I was frightened of him, too" |
In the interview room, Gaynor continues that she loved Tom a lot; “But I was frightened of him, too. Frightened of what he would do, frightened of opening my mouth.”
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| "Has he ever hit you?" |
When asked if he had ever hit her,
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| "Only once" |
she answers, “Only once,” but is reminded that once is more than enough.
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| "So when hje told me he'd killed Cheryl . . ." |
“So when he told me that he’d killed Cheryl, I didn’t know where to turn.”
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| They were certainly not expecting that |
This comes as a great surprise to the two police officers; “Mrs Llywelyn, can I remind you that you have the right to legal representation?”
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| "I have nothing to hide" |
Gaynor insists that there is no need for that as she has nothing to hide.
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| "So he told you he'd killed Cheryl Thomas?" |
“So David Thomas Humphries told you that he’d killed Cheryl Thomas?” asks the DS, with Gaynor replying that he said it was in self-defence.
“But when I questioned you after Mr Humphries was arrested, you denied knowing anything – why?”
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| "I was scared" |
Gaynor is at a loss to explain, my telling that she was scared, both of the police and him.
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| "And you didn't tell anyone else about this?" |
“And you didn’t tell anyone else about this?” Gaynor shakes her head.
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| "Can you give us five m minutes, please?" |
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| "You were hungry, weren't you?" |
Liv has been breastfeeding the baby; “You we’re hungry, weren’t you?” she tells him.
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| "Why didn't you say he needed food?" |
Iolo walks into the room and wonders what is going on; “Why didn’t you say that he needed food? I thought we’d agreed that Ty needed to get used to the bottle during the day.”
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| "I thought it would be easier" |
She answers that he started crying and she thought that it would be easier.
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| "Right, I'll take him now" |
Iolo appears to be concerned that control is slipping from his grasp, so he wants to take the baby now, if she does not mind.
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| "Come with Dad, yeah?" |
“Come with Dad, yeah? Let’s go and make a bottle.”
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| Liv is angry at this intrusion |
Liv is understandably feeling outraged by this.
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| The two officers come back |
It is about 16:45 when the officers return to the interview room;
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| "Can I go now??" |
Gaynor asks if she can go now, but is told, “I’ve been speaking to the CPS.” Gaynor is concerned that they still think she killed Cheryl.
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| "Perverting the course of justice" |
The DS tells her, “No, but because of this new information, that you knew about Cheryl’s death, I’m sorry, but we’ll have to officially charge you with preventing a burial, concealing a crime and perverting the course of justice.
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| Gaynor is stunned |
“Do you understand the implications of these charges? Or would you like me to go over them again with you?”
She looks blankly, as the DS repeats, “I need to make sure you understand,”
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| "Yes, I understand" |
and she manages to whisper that she does.




























































































































